janie_tangerine: (supernatural dean 3.0)
janie_tangerine ([personal profile] janie_tangerine) wrote2011-04-23 03:13 pm

SPN 6x18, 'frontierland'

Okay. If you didn't like this or you aren't interested in blathering squee from a person who's had a western movies/Clint Eastwood kink as huge as the Chrysler building for half of her life, don't bother. That's all there is.

1. DIFJLIDFIDSHYFOIDYHFOSIUDHFDISOHIOSYHGFOIUSYGHDUYGFU I STILL CAN'T PROCESS HOW PERFECT THIS EPISODE WAS. TOTALLY TOP FIVE SPN EPISODES EVER AND I STILL CAN'T SAY WHICH POSITION BUT OH MY GOD. THEY KNEW HOW TO MAKE ME HAPPY.

2. STARTING FROM DEAN WEARING A PONCHO AND BUYING THE GET UP AND BEING ACCUSED TO HAVE A KINK WHICH I TOTALLY HAVE TOO, AND TOTALLY NOT DENYING LIKING EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE AND ANY WHICH WAY YOU CAN. OH DEAN. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MARRY YOU.

3. Also he said his name was CLINT EASTWOOD. (Lol at Sam being Chuck Norris. xD) I mean. APART FROM THAT, IT WAS ALSO TOTALLY A BACK TO THE FUTURE III QUOTE. OH DEAN. I liked you in the poncho/blanket, though.

4. Also BOBBY SAID 'WOULDN'T WANNA LEAVE THEM IN DEADWOOD'. SO JIM BEAVER SAID DEADWOOD. THEY PUT A DEADWOOD REFERENCE IN JIM BEAVER'S MOUTH. YES WELL DEADWOOD IS MY FAVORITE SHOW LET ME GUSH A BIT HERE.

5. Also: THE DUEL AT NOON. HIGH NOON REFERENCES WILL NEVER NOT MAKE ME HAPPY. AND DEAN QUOTING JOHN MCCLANE AFTER BLOWING SMOKE? OH GOD UNF I DIED FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME.

6. Also lol at the phoenix being Ted Sprague from Heroes S1. Does he always have to play the guy with the dead wife who dies exploding in a fire? But he was very much hot this round.

7. SKDFHLSDHFJDSHFJKFS JENSEN IN COWBOY ATTIRE LJGHLKJFHGJKFDHGKJD. Yeah. You look good. You do.

8. Lol at poor Sam and the horse, but it was very fitting that it was Sam talking to Sam(uel) Colt. At the ending I was pretty much being all like :DDDDD. SAMUEL COLT SENT SAM HIS BLACKBERRY BACK, AW. xD That was classy. Also because it was obvious they were never gonna get the ashes.

9. I also think I heard a Blazing Saddles reference. Maybe. But I still can't get over the fact that THEY REFERENCED EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE AND ANY WHICH WAY YOU CAN (the ones with Clyde the orangutan lolol those movies are totally my guilty pleasure). ALL THE REFERENCES. AND ALL THE CLINT EASTWOOD. SHOW YOU MAKE ME SO HAPPY WHEN YOU WANT/CAN/DO. *is full of love for show*

10. OKAY UHM MAYBE I SHOULD TRY TO SAY SOMETHING COHERENT. Like THAT MY SHIP NEVER DISAPPOINTS (whenever Dean prays to Cas I die. Really). or, CAAAAAAAASSS WHAT ARE YOU DOING BABY ;____;

11. Uhm, no, wait, I actually have an idea about what he's doing. Which is mostly speculation as I'm totally NOT spoiled for much that happens from now, but. Okay, that's how I see it. Last episode Atropos was like 'you wanted 50000 extra souls for your war machine', which sounds ridiculous because I can't see angels feeding souls to a proper war machine. But. They actually made us see that if angels touch someone's soul their grace heals, right? I guess that was the whole point of the Bobby thing. SO. Let's say that Castiel goes and touches THAT many souls at once. If touching one healed his grace, touching that many would power him up to archangel level if not even more, THEREFORE he'd be able to kill Raphael. But obviously that would mean that a) those souls are toast and that possibly b) he'd get TOO much power and either it'd go to his head or he couldn't even survive or even worse c) he'd become god-like or something which would - well. Yeah. Not nice. I could go on on this based on what I know of certain spoilers for 6x20 but I'm not doing it here as I wouldn't want to spoil anyone. Which brings me to be like OH MY GOD CAS YOU'RE DOING SUCH A STUPID THING BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S THE RIGHT ONE AND DAMN BUT THOSE WINCHESTERS RUBBED ON YOU ALRIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING TOO AND YOU DO IT ALSO BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM (AND DEAN MOSTLY) AND OH MY - CAAASSSSS ;__________; *bawls*

Well, that was my speculation. I hope as fuck it doesn't eventually happen. Mostly because at least in the Titanic universe the souls were basically people who shouldn't have even existed so I guess it was as ethical as angels can get, but if he has to do it now it means real souls and yeah. Uhm. CASTIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL ;___________;

12. That said, the Bobby & Cas interaction was gold. I've been wanting them to have some interaction on their own for a while and that was brilliant.

13. Also Misha you look so very pretty when you're all worn out and falling on other people. <333333

14. ALSO JENSEN YOU LOOK SO VERY PRETTY IN COWBOY ATTIRE.

15. Also I need to icon this episode like there's no tomorrow. And even if I doubt that the next episodes will end on a sort-of-happy note as this one I just really loved that it had a hopeful ending and not as gloomy as it's been lately. Won't last, I know, but.

16. THE LIGHTENING AND PHOTOGRAPHY DURING THE WESTERN SCENES - GOD I LOVED THAT THEY VIRED IT IN SEPIA OR HOW THE HECK IT'S CALLED BECAUSE IT WAS GORGEOUS.

17. Season six, I never really disliked you, but as far as I care I forget Caged Heat ever happened, I forget that we could have done with at least four episodes less of Sam being soulless, I forget that you apparently killed Crowley and just - if the next four eps are as good as these past two I'll regret waiting until Christmas to pay the dvds half the price, lol.

OH MY GOD SHOW. SHOW. SHOOOWWWW. The only thing I didn't appreciate was that Castiel didn't get to wear a cowboy hat (that'd have been like the best thing ever) but considering what they gave me I'M NOT COMPLAINING.

18. Also: poor Rachel wasn't that bad. Actually she had a lot of points. But considering that it seemed a huge part when they gave details about her I was sure she'd have been around at least two episode. Alllriiight. Well.

19. Also: Cas you suck ass at lying. Someone's going to notice at some point. Sigh. I like your arc though. I really like it. I just hope it ends like I want, lol.

20. In conclusion: THIS WAS THE BEST THING EVER AND I'LL BE HERE CRYING OVER UNI WORK BECAUSE FINISHING THAT MEANS I CAN'T RE-WATCH IT ANOTHER FIVE TIMES AT LEAST. I'm a satisfied fangirl. The end. ♥

21. Also I was forgetting: COSTUME DEPARTMENT STOP READING MY MIND. Because I had a western square for my au_bingo table and I never got to finish planning that fic but in it Dean was so supposed to wear a poncho as well. Actually except for the poncho being gray-ish like the one Clint had in the Leone movies, the get-up would have been exactly the same. Damn I need to finish planning that thing now.

I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT HAPPENED FOR REAL. *FLAILS*

[identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
THAT WAS THE POINT WHICH PRETTY MUCH SLAYED ME. DEAN QUOTING JOHN MCCLANE - IN THIS EPISODE HE WAS SO PERFECT. DEAN MARRY ME. FOR REAL. AND HAHA YES THAT WAS TOTALLY MARTY'S OUTFIT/QUOTE AND HE'S A GEEK AND I LOVE HIM. I'll always love him for specifying that THE MONKEY'S NAME WAS CLYDE. DAMN STRAIGHT, DEAN. (You don't want to know how much I enjoyed those movies. It wasn't only for Clint being bare-chested half of the time.) And yeah, I can't have enough of seeing Dean so happy ;__; it warmed my heart.

And ha yeah I think angel ethics are totes screwed. They really do need to talk about them. But still, whatever Cas is doing will end up being infinitely worse because he isn't using the Titanic!souls but real ones, that's the one I'm willing to bet on. And oh, don't worry. I'm enjoying his moral struggle like crazy as well. Heck, if Dean and Sam got to have it why not him? He's got a right to it. ;) I think it's more of a 'he thinks it's the only way to do what's right and he doesn't have to like it' thing, rather than he wants to do it and he knows it isn't good. But you are right about the fratricide bit. Heck, he's been doing that for two seasons after all. But idk I'm not really buying that he really WANTS to do whatever he's doing. If he did, he wouldn't be so ashamed of it.

CAAAAAAAAAAAASSSS. ;_____________;

SHE WAS COOL. Except for the random name which was anything but angelic, but whatever. I LIKED HER.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I do enjoy troubled!Dean, but I forget how much delighted!Dean brings a smile to my face because he just... LETS HIMSELF BE GLAD, which he rarely does. OH DEAN. PLEASE GEEK ON FOREVER. I've always loved the BTTF references in SPN, augh perfect trilogy. "Hey Winchester" in 4x03 killed me dead.

I'm on board with everyone else who says that this Cas is kind of like Sam in S4, doing terrible things in the name of good. Souls are the demon blood, which... I guess makes Balthazar Ruby? Ahahaha. I liked Sam in S4 though, and yes, totally, I def think Cas doesn't like what he's doing, but he sees it as necessary so he just grits his teeth and gets on with it with the follow-through of a soldier, and the remorse is clear for all to see. He's far from the most self-aware of angels though, and THAT'S what I love to see. The ideology that he embraced is currently the means to his downfall because in some very vital ways, Cas still doesn't understand. The disaster borne of angels with free will kind of reminds me of what happens when an economy liberalizes too quickly, y'know? Several millenia of tradition is not going to change overnight. When Rachel said, "What have you become?" or something like that, my heart got the happy sads because oh Caaaaassss, I totally called this, I called this since before S6 started. Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss, and WHERE ARE YOU GONNA FROM HERE, CAS? WHERE? HOW? He's become like Uriel in 4x16, slaying those who dissent from his view.

The suffix -el means "of God" though, so while it isn't as arcane as Castiel or Uriel, I can see why an angel'd have that name.

[identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I know really? He's just --- he's so HAPPY when he lets himself be ;___; I love him being all snarky and comfortable and gleeful and oh Dean please be happy more often or go to the past more often or SOMETHING. Also word on the BTTF, I'll never not love how they do it. THAT KILLED ME DEAD AS WELL.

... I'll take Balthazar over Ruby any day though, thank you ;) though at least Castiel knows perfectly what he's doing. I mean, it's not like S4!Sam had many doubts, and it's not like Balthazar is making Castiel do it. I think that at least he has clearer that he's not liking what he's doing, but yeah he isn't self-aware at all. Which I do like. It still shows that it's not like since he fell he's not as much of an angel as he used to be. I like this whole story, really, except for how much it's making me cry. And yeah word on the economics parallel, I'd totally subscribe to that. And OH DEAR THAT'S SORTA LIKE URIEL YES ;___; though I'd like to believe that Castiel feels worse about it than Uriel used to, lol.

Yeah as an angel-name it -does- slightly make more sense, but when I heard Rachel for the first time I was like '...why so human?'. I guess I'm waiting for a girl angel with a genderless name here. Probably won't ever happen. ;)

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I do wonder to what extent Balthazar had influence on Castiel's plans though. My guess is that Balthazar was just blithering on about the profitability of the soul market, and Cas was the one who was like, "Hmmm..." and cobbled together the idea. If this were Ocean's 11 AU, Balthazar is Brad Pitt and Cas is George Clooney. The Winchesters are Julia Roberts. Oh hell, this is pretty much Ocean's 11 AU, except with MORE MURDER AND DESPAIR.

though I'd like to believe that Castiel feels worse about it than Uriel used to, lol.
Hee! Yes. I also like to believe that if Uriel had succeeded in killing Cas, he would've had to go smite a small village to make himself feel better. My headcanon for them has always been that they were good friends. It's just that with angels, it seems idealism/ideology is always going to trump love.

I guess I'm waiting for a girl angel with a genderless name here.
RAPHAEL THOUGH. ;) And Castiel when he was in Claire.

[identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
.... WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT TO ME. NOW I WANT OCEAN'S 11 AU WITH DESPAIR AND MURDER LIKE BURNING. So uhm, Lucifer is Vincent Cassel, Bobby is Iforgotthename but whatever the old guy who gave them advice and like Anna is Matt Damon?

IDEK. And I even watched all of those because my mother is a shameless Clooney fangirl, ohdear. But apart from that I do like that Cas might have got the idea from Balthazar's soul-trading, though I really can't buy Balthazar leading him on or whatever. I sort of bought that he genuinely gives a shit about Castiel, ops. Wait until they prove me wrong.

And yeah word about Uriel and his village smiting tendencies. ;) Ugh I miss him at times. :(

OKAY BUT THEIR FIRST VESSELS WERE MALE. ;) I'll let them count half though. XD

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-04-23 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Saul! ahaha, I totally see Ash as the Basher and Jo as Yen, and Benedict is probably... Crowley. Or Meg?

I was more willing to believe Balthazar would screw Cas over in the beginning, but now... tbh, now I may be too into Cas/Bal shipping to entertain the notion for very long, haha. Like, I really like him being Cas's sentinel. But yeah, WATCH YOU BREAK MY HEART, SHOW, THE WAY YOU BROKE IT WITH RUBY.

[identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
RIGHT, SAUL. Lol sorry but it's not like remembering names is easy when your mom squees next to you for the entire movie ;) also OH MY THAT CASTING IS SO PERFECT. LOLOLOL BENEDICT BEING CROWLEY WOULD BE SO AWESOME.

Yeah, me too. I don't even do Cas/Balthazar in a strictly romantic way because I'm kind of in love with the idea of the two of them being genuinely friends (or maybe I'm just shocked at myself not wanting to suddenly slash two people lol - which doesn't mean I won't read it when it's romantic XD) and now I really don't want to think that Balthazar goes all Ruby on Cas. :(( (I'd also like to think that for all his lack of self-aware-ness Cas isn't so stupid to make himself be screwed like that, er. xD)

SHOW PLEASE WE TRUST YOU DON'T DO THAT TO US. I want to keep Balthazar dammit.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-04-24 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I was so thrilled when Balthazar showed up in 6x03 with big ol' hearts in his eyes for Cas. On the one hand, it's loldorable, and on the other, it's nice to see someone has Cas's back like that, someone who knows him and has history with him and has a context for him outside of the apocalypse. Because of that, I am pretty much a sucker for any kind of Cas&Bal relationship whether platonic or romantic or whatever. I love their kinship.

[identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com 2011-04-25 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
... I subscribe everything you said in this comment. End of story. ;)