Tbh, when reading the books, I just blocked that part from my mind. Like, I still imagined him as a young guy (and only with like, maybe 2 teeth missing at most). I don't think my brain was able to process the fact that a 22-year-old (is he 22? I actually don't remember) looks 60. So I rarely ever think about that part. =/
Ugh, there will always be those types of people. >__>
My thoughts exactly. I actually wanted to comment on that, but the guy disabled comments, lol. I wonder if he got shit for stuff and that's why he did it. I also remember him saying how he doesn't understand why Jaime would save Brienne from rape/death, because "he hasn't shown any redeeming qualities so far". And that him saving Brienne was OOC. Ugh, just... no fucking comment. (I mean, I guess you could argue that this guy hasn't read the books, but come on, that's no excuse)
That is exactly what Theon yearned for - he wanted to BELONG and he wanted to be ACCEPTED. I think this is why I never really hated him (like, even pre-ADWD he was in my top 10 Asoiaf characters list). Because I could actually somewhat relate to him on that level (the level of feeling like you don't belong). Imagine being taken from your home at the age of 8, by the people who killed your 2 brothers no less. You're then forced to grow up with those people and while they don't exactly treat you badly, there's always that threat that they will kill you, because hey, you're not actually their adopted son, but a fucking prisoner. And you basically don't belong anywhere anymore. You'll never TRULY be a part of this adoptive-prisoner family, but you're not quite a part of your own blood family either. And none of those people will ever FULLY accept you. You'll never be good enough for any of them. So yeah. Theon is flawed and misguided, but it's coming from a place of hurt and confusion (and the feeling of never being good enough - thus the need to "prove himself") and I don't get how people don't see that. And it's not like he never felt conflicted/guilty, unlike a lot of other characters in the books who don't get nearly as much hate as Theon does.
Also, that "I should have been with Robb at the wedding. I should have died with him," line absolutely killed me. ;______;
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Date: 2013-04-16 10:22 pm (UTC)Ugh, there will always be those types of people. >__>
My thoughts exactly. I actually wanted to comment on that, but the guy disabled comments, lol. I wonder if he got shit for stuff and that's why he did it. I also remember him saying how he doesn't understand why Jaime would save Brienne from rape/death, because "he hasn't shown any redeeming qualities so far". And that him saving Brienne was OOC. Ugh, just... no fucking comment. (I mean, I guess you could argue that this guy hasn't read the books, but come on, that's no excuse)
That is exactly what Theon yearned for - he wanted to BELONG and he wanted to be ACCEPTED. I think this is why I never really hated him (like, even pre-ADWD he was in my top 10 Asoiaf characters list). Because I could actually somewhat relate to him on that level (the level of feeling like you don't belong). Imagine being taken from your home at the age of 8, by the people who killed your 2 brothers no less. You're then forced to grow up with those people and while they don't exactly treat you badly, there's always that threat that they will kill you, because hey, you're not actually their adopted son, but a fucking prisoner. And you basically don't belong anywhere anymore. You'll never TRULY be a part of this adoptive-prisoner family, but you're not quite a part of your own blood family either. And none of those people will ever FULLY accept you. You'll never be good enough for any of them. So yeah. Theon is flawed and misguided, but it's coming from a place of hurt and confusion (and the feeling of never being good enough - thus the need to "prove himself") and I don't get how people don't see that. And it's not like he never felt conflicted/guilty, unlike a lot of other characters in the books who don't get nearly as much hate as Theon does.
Also, that "I should have been with Robb at the wedding. I should have died with him," line absolutely killed me. ;______;